Sunday, April 15, 2012

Re: [CROMA] Re: [mahagunmascot] माँ भी बच्चे के रोने पर ही दूध पिलाती हैं-आज हमें जागना ही होगा.

 

Originally/Initially objective behind CROMA's setup was removal of DUMPING GROUND and general Well-being of Entire Crossing Republic. Understanding was Society/builder specific issues should be taken at society level by RWA or group of residents till RWA is not formed. Different level of fights by different group of people/level.
 
My Personal Opinion
 
Mahesh,
 
You have actually gone through with tough fight for entire Mahagun's residents. But you did not get adequate support from Mahagun's 1199 residents, which is very very bad, whereas all remaining 1199 residents are also beneficiary but only you are victimized for this... or may be as you are alone, builder is able to do this...
So I will request all Mahagun's 1199 residents, pls join/support Mahesh as he has done a lot not only for himself but for you all as well. Now say Thanks very loudly and stand by him, as now it's your turn (Mahagun residents) to payback to Mahesh.
Constructing Shopping mall/ additional tower/ Villas etc. are done by all the builders (after increase in FAR) in their societies respectively, but unfortunately no one has that much courage in my society (including me) to go to that stage and get the justice/benefit for such issues.
 
Akhil Ji,
 
We all have full faith in your guidance and leadership. You don't have to tell the work you & entire CROMA team has done so far. We all know that there is possibility to get justice now, but only if we move very cautiously under the guidance of Senior Lawyers/experts and remain united as such kind of decisions are not taken only by course of law but with influence of bigger group of people as well or may be quickly…
 
Mahesh I think you have guts and you can be proved quite helpful if you join CROMA and help us. I reiterate, this is my personal opinion.
 
Regards,
Vikas Goyal
 
From: prakash ranjan <prakash2win@gmail.com>
To: mahagunmascot@yahoogroups.com
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Sent: Saturday, 14 April 2012 6:16 PM
Subject: Re: [CROMA] Re: [mahagunmascot] माँ भी बच्चे के रोने पर ही दूध पिलाती हैं-आज हमें जागना ही होगा.

 
Hi Akhil/Mahesh,

I am not a legal expert neither an expert on any of the matter be (It's shopping complex issue or Dumping Ground issue).

But going through my personal experience  I will say...

1.Croma and Mahagun RWA has to help Mr Mahesh Narayan in getting the Flat at earliest.

I am in Bangalore and I can understand the Pain of Mr Mahesh because I am also giving 30 K as EMI and 20 K as rent in Banaglore.

2.Mr Mahesh can guide the entire team of Croma with his previous experience because as per my understanding he has done the unbelievable by fighting the case alone with Mahagun Managment and winning it.


I have  full faith in Croma and in our law.

We need to fight the legal  battle and Croma can initiate collecting funding again.We can't just sit and watch dumping ground being built.If we can pay maintaince charge then on monthly basis we can pay small amount like 200-500  to Croma as well to fight the battle.


Regards,
Prakash Ranjan
M:-91 8105296000


2012/4/14 Mahesh Narayanan <mahesh1283@yahoo.com>
 
Akhil I disagree with your statement that

"On this issue, Mahesh I would like clarify you that shopping complex is in front of your tower which was not planned by the builder as per terms and conditions agreed with you. This was very much personal matter . This was very much personal matter . CROMA role model does't come into picture for this issue. For such matter their need to be a privity of contract between the builder and association to have some strength to intervene . I know you have written many e-mails for the help, but decision was taken by CROMA not to intervene b'coz of the abovesaid reason. Such kind of issues are there in other societies also, but from the very beginning CROMA decided not to intervene in such issues as such falls within persons personal capacity o later on RWA can intervene for help."

The shopping complex is an illegal construction that effects 360 flats housed in four tower building. As many as 1200 residents (360 flats * 4 residents per flat=1200+ residents) are effected by the illegal shopping complex because these residents cannot avail fire fighting rescue services offered by the fire service. This means that if there is a fire in any one of these four towers the residents, at higher floors especially, cannot be attended to. The fire tender cannot extinguish the fire neither can it erect a ladder to rescue the trapped residents. The shopping complex has been constructed over the pieace of land that is to be left vacant at all times called the setback area. This area belongs to the High Rise. I have done study of the case based on some scenarios and even on most conservative estimate atleast 300-500 people will die a miserable death if there is a fire incident on these affected towers. My study is based on past incidents like UPHAAR cinema Delhi 1997, Carlton tower high rise fire in Bangalore that took place in 2010 and AMRI hospital Kolkatta 2011. Hence by no stretch of imagination is the shopping complex matter a personal issue. Also there was no contract between me and the builder to either construct or not construct any illegal construction infront of my flat. Akhil How can a builder have a agreement with me to construct illegal buildings in front of my flat? Agreements are only for things that are allowed by law and not illegal things like the shopping complex building. The very fact that the government of uttar pradesh has intervened in the shopping complex issue and further canceled the sanction given to it indicates that it is not a personal matter. Govt. of Uttar Pradesh does not resolve bilateral contract disputes. Govt. will intervene only if there is illegality. Pls read the 9 page order of the government of Uttar Pradesh in the shopping complex issue here http://www.scribd.com/doc/82705048/Order-Mahagun-Mascot-Shopping-Complex-Sanction-Cancelled.

That said CROMA has failed to intervene in a matter which threatens the life safety of 1200 people.

From: Akhil Pal Chhabra <75chhabra@gmail.com>
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Sent: Saturday, 14 April 2012 10:10 AM

Subject: Re: [CROMA] Re: [mahagunmascot] माँ भी बच्चे के रोने पर ही दूध पिलाती हैं-आज हमें जागना ही होगा.

Hi Mahesh,

Read your views on my opinion about the matter.

Mahesh, I want to clarify few things to you, You are right that builders petition may be thrown out and dismiss with heavy cost, which was our doubt at the time when builders were filing the petition . Thankfully the notice was issued and we got some other hope. But I tell on the first date when notice was issued ,the Supreme Court judges realized by reading the facts that something fishy is in the matter at the hands of the State Govt. against the builders. Only on this basis the notice was issued. Also court asked why the residents have not challenged the order who had filed petition in the High Court. On questioning about the status of residents, the builders lawyers were mum. 

Thereafter we met various lawyers to take opinion on the matter how to take next move.With the advise and opinion of senior lawyers, It was decided that  we should join in the builders petition in Supreme Court by fling an intervention application. We started drive for collection of fund. But due to nuisance created by few and doubt created on CROMA identity & credibility, the funds were not collected and whatever amount was collcted the same was returned to the respective person in each society,to avoid any finger on CROMA and CROMA stopped that action plan of going to Supreme Court .I am still of the opinion that if we go to Supreme Court some weightage will be given to the builders petition and we may get some relief. But that need to be done with big unity and very carefully and for this we need to take known face of the legal industry to get the order in favour.If you agree with this view please come forward an take lead. But in this matter don't take any action individually as in the past few  resident went alone in the High Court and petitions were tagged with builders petitions and all petitions were dismissed. That is the reason I have not filed any petition individually in the High Court or Supreme Court at yet which I would have done very easily. Filing many petitions individually may have impact of weaken the case stand.           

Also on action plan of NATIONAL GREEN TRIBUNAL, with the advise of Supreme Court Environmental Expert, that since the Enviornment Clearance for the project is still pending, we filed a representation before the Secretary, Ministry of Enviornment and Forest which was forwarded to the  State Enviornment Ministry which is still pending for closure. We are about to sent reminder on that pending file before the Ministry of Enviornment.This fact was also shared with everyone on all yahoo group and facebook page.   As far your reply to our action plan of going to National Green Tribunal is concern, I must clear you that since till date the State Impact assessment authority has not given Environment Clearance for the project this is the reason we have not file any complaint in NCT till date and we are waiting for the appropriate stage for that move Therefore  I am not agreeing with your virws that National Green Tribunal will not hear our petition ,If we move in that direction. Since once the title of that 14 acre land reach to some conclusion by the builders petition in Supreme Court or after the grant or non -grant of Enviornment Clearance the cause of action arise for National Green Tribunal.    
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You may be correct in your views and I may be wrong. It is a legal battle based on various documents and different opinion. Mahesh, It is very easy to write e-mail questioning on someone hard word work and effort. But before questioning at least think proper and use proper language while writing on the blog. You are not only writing I am False, am False you have questioned the entire CROMA team who had put lot of work for the matter.Mahesh, each step was taken with proper application of mind and opinion of senior lawyers and various intelligent members in the group.At that time you never turned up b'coz  you are busy with your personal matter.But opinion varies from person to person that is why  there are Senior Lawyers and ordinary lawyers in the legal industry. I may not be intelligent as you, but at least I have that mien what to write and what not to write on the blog with proper language so that it may not hurt the sentiments of any one. In request in future please control on your words.

Also as you said in your last e-mail that CROMA has never come forward to help you in your shopping complex matter. On this issue, Mahesh I would like clarify you that shopping complex is in front of your tower which was not planned by the builder as per terms and conditions agreed with you. This was very much personal matter . CROMA role model does't come into picture for this issue. For such matter their need to be a privity of contract between the builder and association to have some strength to intervene . I know you have written many e-mails for the help, but decision was taken by CROMA not to intervene b'coz of the abovesaid reason. Such kind of issues are there in other societies also, but from the very beginning CROMA decided not to intervene in such issues as such falls within persons personal capacity o later on RWA can intervene for help.

Mahesh ,now please come forwarded and take lead for dump yard issue. I am with you and I request everyone to be with you.Now at this juncture I advise all the residents to take next move to solve the issue with your expert advise and opinion. Please come forwarded, I know you have the understanding of law as apparent from your views ad legal battle you have won for the shopping complex.

Will await to see you soon to take lead.   

Regards

Akhil Chhabra  

2012/4/13 Mahesh Narayanan <mahesh1283@yahoo.com>
 
I just want to make a few observations based on my opinion on this matter. I just want to state that my understanding of the dumping ground matter is main based on the High Court judgment dated 30.08.2011.

1. The stand taken by Akhil that 'Builder is fighting against Dumping Ground' is completely false. The case filed by builder against municipality is nothing more that a eye-wash. Anyone who has Rs.20,000 (rupees twenty thousand only) to spend can file a case in high court. Anyone who has Rs.50,000 (rupees fifty thousand only) to spend can file a case in supreme court.That's the amount it costs to hire a lawyer and file cases at these two forums.

2. The stand taken by Akhil that 'Builder is also a loser because of Dumping Ground' is completely false.Builder has already sold the flats atleast most of them are sold. Builder has nothing to lose.

3. The stand taken by Akhil that ' it is the residents who are in strong hands to demand from the govt. authorities to take back the decision to shift this dumpyard at some other place  by Dharna/Pradarshan' is completely false. Like i said before the Dumping Ground was proposed way back in year 2000. Later the land use of Dumping Ground was, by means of corrupt and ILLEGAL means, changed from 'Dumping Ground' to 'Residential'. The adjoining plots were sold and the building were erected and the flats were sold. Just imagine yourself would you buy a piece of land if you knew that a KUDADAN is proposed next to it. Later on inspection when it was found that the land use was illegally changed the Govt. changed the land use back to 'Dumping Ground'. So in summary builders have no case. In my opinion the case in supreme court will be thrown out with heavy cost. WHY? because the case is a means to cover up fraud and supreme court does not like fraud very much. This case smells worse than the Dumping Ground.

4. The stand taken by Akhil that 'However, for legal action on Enviornmental Factors, we /the residents has the right to raise the voice before National Green Tribunal for which we are waiting as the last recourse.' is completely false. The very inception of Dumping Ground itself was made to protect the environment. Dumping Ground is a scientific way of disposing waste as per the court and The Hon'ble Supreme court by its direction in 1996 (Writ   Petition   No.888   of   1996 Almitra H. Patel vs. State of UP & others) asked government to setup Dumping Grounds all over the country. Dumping Ground as per supreme court is a measure to save the environment and it is beneficial to the community. National Green Tribunal can only encourage it and not stop its construction contrary to what Akhil suggests.

I agree with Akhil and Raju to the extent that the residents need to unite on this matter. Residents need to wake up and see the truth. This is a fraud and nothing else. A fraud at a massive scale. A fraud that effects 1 lakh people. A fraud that will inflict cancer on your children. See the movie Erin Brockovich.

I believe that so far the fight against Dumping Ground has been MISDIRECTED. We are fighting the wrong guy. Municipality has done no fraud. Municipality has not concealed facts. Municipality has not built and sold flats next to the Dumping Ground.


From: Akhil Pal Chhabra <75chhabra@gmail.com>
To: CrossingsRepublikOwnersAndMembersAssociation-CROMA@yahoogroups.co.in
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Sent: Friday, 13 April 2012 3:00 PM
Subject: Re: [CROMA] Re: [mahagunmascot] माँ भी बच्चे के रोने पर ही दूध पिलाती हैं-आज हमें जागना ही होगा.

 
Hi Mr.Atul

Read your detailed mail.I would request you in future please write in short and be precise in your views as and suggestions.You have repeatedly said only one thing that builders has cheated us so we should ask for dharna/pradarshan by the builders and then if builders are agree then we should support them. 

Atul, I must tell you builders are fighting for this fight with legal documents and now matter is already at Supreme Court. If we request to the builders to go for dharna/pradrashan , no one will listen to the builders. Builders are also a victim in the hands of Govt like we are in the hands of builders in the present case.I can understand that as we are victims at the hands of builders as well as authorities for which we have legal way to take action against the builders for breach of trust or by any other cause which no one has guts uptill now. Mahesh has rightly taken action vis-a-vis Mahagun Shopping complex is concern.But everyone is not like Mahesh and also Mahesh is facing the consequences of that ,till date his Flat is not being handed over for which he has to fight separately another round of litigation and also by doing this litigation he has faced some medical problem as apparent from his e-mail. Despite being a lawyer I am saying all this b'coz I know weakness of legal system in our Country. However, for legal action on Enviornmental Factors, we /the residents has the right to raise the voice before National Green Tribunal for which we are waiting as the last recourse.   
    
As suggested by you that we should start fighting with builders, in that case it will be very difficult to sustain in future as there is much development required in the township for which we need to push builders to place things properly as much as possible. Still builders are in better position in all respect rather than us. Please understand with builders we can fight any time but not at this stage when builders are already fighting and went upto SUPREME COURT, the Apex court of the country and the fate of that case can take any direction. 

As per current scenario, it is the residents who are in strong hands to demand from the govt. authorities to take back the decision to shift this dumpyard at some other place  by Dharna/Pradarshan . In the past builders were agreed to spent money to purchase land at some other place to shift this menace but all in vain b'coz of nuisance by City Mayor/M.P from BJP govt. in Ghaziabad.


We have kept this coming DHARNA /PRADARSHAN on 15th April  b'coz of current change of U.P. Govt as well as appointment of new VC-GDA Mr. Santosh Yadav  who has been assigned MISSION GHAZIABAD as priority as air in the city. We are trying our luck with a positive hope from new UP Chief Minster, Mr. Akhilesh Yadav who is from Environmental Engineering background. We are also trying to escalate the issue by sending our representation through own sources to his office which is also in pipeline and also trying to fix our meeting with him. We are repeating this protest to bring into their knowledge about the issue as well as to stop the construction started at the site by showing unity and strength of the crowd at Crossings Republik and nearby areas. For this we need support of maximum residents as much as possible.  

Hope I clarified my view point in detail. If still you have some doubt do write us.       


Regards

Akhil Chhabra
Team-CROMA


   
2012/4/12 atul singh <atul_lh@yahoo.co.in>
 
I think Mahesh is right and as discussed last time during our communication on the same platform(mail) I had an opinion which seems nearly similar to Mahesh.
And at the same time the issue of Duping ground is also a valid issue as stated by many people in this group for CR residents  and what ever Raju is stating that is also perfectly correct we should go for DHARNA/FAST etc.

BUT WHAT IS NOT CORRECT IS DHARNA AND FAST IN FRONT OF DUMPING GROUND IT SHOULD BE IN FRONT OF CROSSINGS BUILDERS NOT IN FRONT OF DUMPING GROUND.
SINCE THEY PLANNED IT (CR) AND WE PAID MONEY TO THEM (IT INCLUDES BUILDER AS FIRST PARTY AND OBVIOUSLY THE GOVERNMENT AUTHORITY ALSO WHO EARNS FROM TOWNSHIP OR REAL STATE DEVELOPMENT I APPEAL TO BUILDERS IF THEY FEEL SOME GOVERNMENT AUTHORITY DID WRONG WITH THEM THEN PLEASE SEND THAT OPENLY IN THIS MAIL CHAIN) AND THEY MUST TAKE CARE OF THIS SITUATION OR THEY TALK TO ANY OTHER AUTHORITY TO SETTLE THIS ISSUE.WE DID NOT SPEND MONEY TO ENSURE THAT ONCE WE COME TO OUR HOME WE SHOULD GO FOR DHARNA AND FAST IN FRONT OF GOVT AUTHORITY.
WE PAID MONEY TO GET HOME NOT TO GET INVOLVED INTO ISSUE OF DHARNA FOR DUMPING GROUND ETC.

SEE THE MAIN PROBLEM IS THOSE WHO ARE INVOLVED IN THIS SHOULD SOLVE THIS ISSUE and THEY MUST SOLVE IT.
THIS LOOKS LIKE STRANGE TO ME THAT ALL CROSSINGS RESIDENTS SHOULD GO TO DHARNA AND FAST BUT BUILDERS SHOULD ENJOY THEIR LIFE IN THEIR PLACES SINCE THEY GOT MONEY FROM US. LETS TALK TO BUILDERS AND FIRST CALL DIRECTORS OF CROSSINGS TO GO FOR DHARNA AND FAST NOT THE RESIDENTS SHOULD GO FOR IT.

I KNOW THAT BUILDERS MAY ALSO BE FACING SOME LOSS DUE TO CR(AM I WRONG ??) BUT WHY THEY ARE NOT COMING FOR DHARNA OR FAST (the reason MAY BE THEY HAVE DONE SOMETHING AGAINST THE LAW/APPROVAL, which I CAN SEE IN THE MAIL MENTIONED BY MAHESH AND PROBABLY SAME ISSUES IS THERE IN MANY MORE APARTMENTS e.g. MORE CONSTRUCTIONS THAN PLANNED etc..)

SO IN MY OPINION THE FIRST DHARNA/FAST SHOULD BE INFRONT OF BUILDERS AND THEN THEY SHOULD GO FOR DHARNA AND PRADARSHAN IN FRONT OF DG AND IT IS OUR(FLAT OWNERS) MORAL RESPONSIBILITY TO MAKE THEM UNDERSTAND THEY ARE NOT CREATING BETTER SOCIETY BUT COVERTING GOOD HUMAN BEINGS INTO DEVIL BY CHEATING THEM.
AND IT IS BUILDER MORAL RESPONSIBILITY TO ENSURE RESIDENT AND CROSSINGS IS SAFE AND A GOOD PLACE TO LIVE WITHOUT ANY DUMPING GROUND ETC.IF BUILDER FEEL BAD ABOUT THIS COMMENT THEN AM SORRY BUT THIS IS THE RATIONAL AND LOGICAL THINKING SAYS.


SO IF POSSIBLE LETS GO FIRST FOR DHARNA./FAST INFRONT OF BUILDERS INSTEAD OF DUMPING GROUND AND ONCE THEY AGREE TO GO FOR FAST THEN THE RESIDENT MAY SUPPORT THEM(NOT MANDATORY FOR RESIDENTS).ELSE BY GOING TO DUMPING GROUND WE SHOULD NOT CREATE A SYSTEM WHERE THE PERSON WHO MADE MISTAKE IS LEAVING PEACEFULLY BUT THE PERSON WHO WAS NOT AT ALL INVOLVED INTO MONEY MAKING THOSE WHO ARE COMMON MAN ARE FACING PROBLEMS. SAME THING IS HAPPENING IN NOIDA EXTENSIONS .... MANY PEOPLE PAID MONEY BUT NOT SURE WHEN THEY WILL GET THEIR HOUSE...

SO LETS TRY TO MAKE A SYSTEM WHICH ENSURES PERSON DOES NOT MAKE MISTAKE AND IF THEY MAKE MISTAKE THEY SHOULD RECTITY IT NOT WE WHO DID NOT MAKE MISTAKE SHOULD RECTIFY IT.


SO MY REQUEST IS TO LETS GO FOR DHARNA / FAST FOR DUMPING GROUND BUT FIRST DO IT IN FRONT OF BUILDERS AND MAKE THEM UNDERSTAND THEY SHOULD NOT TREAT ANY PERSON BADLY THEY WAY THEY ARE TREATING MAHESH IF SOMEONE RAISES THEIR FINGER ON SOMETHING WRONG



I AM SORRY IF MY THOUGHT DOES NOT SEEM TO BE IN SYNC WITH YOU. IT IS JUST  TO ENSURE THAT THOSE WHO ARE GUILTY SHOULD NOT BE LEFT FREE WITHOUT CORRECTING THEIR MISTAKES. IF WE DO THIS IT WILL GIVE THEM FACILITY TO DO THE SAME THING WITH OTHERS TOO.


I was unbiased during aforementioned electronics expression of my thoughts.It was just a rational thought process product which I acquired from our system and education system where I got educated and morality related books like Ramayan, Gita etc.and my society.

         Beycom

    9873876761


From: RAJ KUMAR RAJU <rajubanka@gmail.com>
To: mahagunmascot@yahoogroups.com
Cc: crossingsrepublikownersandmembersassociation-croma <CrossingsRepublikOwnersAndMembersAssociation-CROMA@yahoogroups.co.in>; crossings <crossings-republik@yahoogroups.com>; "royalcliffrwa@yahoogroups.com" <royalcliffrwa@yahoogroups.com>; "ParamountGroup@yahoogroups.com" <ParamountGroup@yahoogroups.com>; "gardeniasquare@yahoogroups.co.in" <gardeniasquare@yahoogroups.co.in>; "ajnara_genx@yahoogroups.com" <ajnara_genx@yahoogroups.com>; "Amrapali_Empire@yahoogroups.com" <Amrapali_Empire@yahoogroups.com>; RWA Crossings Republic <gh7rwa.crossings@gmail.com>
Sent: Thursday, 12 April 2012 12:20 AM
Subject: [CROMA] Re: [mahagunmascot] माँ भी बच्चे के रोने पर ही दूध पिलाती हैं-आज हमें जागना ही होगा.

 
Dear Mahesh,

I completely agree with you and can understand your frustration as no one from Mahagun Mascot came with you at the time when you called resident to support you to fight against illegal commercial complex. Once I came to know about you, I saluted you for your brave work and now you are the example as well as inspiration for our society that you won the battle with Mahagun Builder. Now, I was unaware about the story that Mahagun is not handing over your flat to you which is already paid by you. I will talk to you offline on this matter and will try to help you as much as I can do from my side.

I purchased my flat in June 2011 and shifted in Nov 2011 so I was unaware about this forum as well as CROMA and/or other yahoo/google groups. So excuse me on this but yes, now I want to make our township as well as our society a better place to live and that's why I am interested in this and calling the entire flat owners to come, unite and show the power. If a single man like you can fight against Mahagun Builder and can win then why not we unite and protest against the DUMPING YARD for our beautiful township.

But the question is  - what is the alternate option for this DUMPING GROUND? Can we sleep at our home and see the DRAMA? or we can protest it until we can do it? I know the entire resident are not  interested and even there are many residents who are not aware about this DUMPING GROUND. May be they don't care about this. But if we have energy and we can protest and can unite then surely we will have some solution. The construction has already been started in DG and we don't want to this construction in front of this beautiful township and we know the result of this DUMPING GROUND as well. I have seen GAZIPUR as an example and don't want the same GAZIPUR in front of my flat/socety/township. We don't want our landmark as DUMPING GROUND. So don't take it in another way, please come and join in this PROTEST/DHARNA/ANSHAN, if you think CROMA is a good place where people from entire society can meet and discuss on this matter openly. 

Please feel free to call me if you have any concern. 

Thanks,
Raj Kumar Raju
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On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 7:54 PM, Mahesh Narayanan <mahesh1283@yahoo.com> wrote:
 
Dear Akhil and Raju,

You have conveniently complained in your email that most of the residents/flat-owners in crossings are not participating in the fight whereas you yourselves have been ABSENT when it comes to raising valid issues like the Illegal Mahagun Mascot Shopping Complex issue. The illegal Mahagun Mascot shopping complex is a threat to life safety of as many as 1200 (One thousand two hundred) residents. So for I am the only one who has been fighting alone against the builder and the likes of you have been sitting on the fence and enjoying the show. AAP LOG TAMASHA DEKH RAHE HO. Mahagun builder has victimised me by not handing over my flat, which is fully paid for by me, but no one has come for my help. I have asked for help several times from this forum but not even one person has bothered to help me. So please stop shedding crocodile tears. Also I would like to state my personal opinion on this matter that your fighting the wrong guy. Municipality is clearly not the enemy here and they are legally on the right footing to construct the dumping yard. It is some one else who has fooled us all (guess who?). There is not a iota of chance that supreme court won't throw out your appeal and also impose a heavy cost on you.

Just think of this
1. There  was a slaughter house (butcherkhana).
2. Some wise guy built a bunch of flat next to the slaughter house and this wise guy also put a veal over the slaughterhouse (BUTCHERKHANA KE UPAR KAPDA DAL KE USSE CHUPA DIYA) and painted over the sign board.
3. Some people bought the flats and started residing in them
4. Then the veil was lifted and the slaughter house came into operation.
5. Now the people who bought the flats are crying foul. They don't want to live next to slaughterhouse because the dead carcasses of slaughtered cattle smell terrible. And the people demanding that the slaughterhouse be shut down.

Who's fault is it. Is it the fault of the person who owns the BUTCHERKHANA or is it the fault of the guy who sold you the flats OR is it the fault of the people who bought the flats? 

Decide yourself. Dumping yard is just an example how fucked up our system is. Just deal with it sir.


From: Akhil Pal Chhabra <75chhabra@gmail.com>
To: crossingsrepublikownersandmembersassociation-croma <CrossingsRepublikOwnersAndMembersAssociation-CROMA@yahoogroups.co.in>; crossings <crossings-republik@yahoogroups.com>; royalcliffrwa@yahoogroups.com; Mahagun Mascot <mahagunmascot@yahoogroups.com>; ParamountGroup@yahoogroups.com; gardeniasquare@yahoogroups.co.in; ajnara_genx@yahoogroups.com; Amrapali_Empire@yahoogroups.com; RWA Crossings Republic <gh7rwa.crossings@gmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, 11 April 2012 9:30 AM
Subject: [mahagunmascot] माँ भी बच्चे के रोने पर ही दूध पिलाती हैं-आज हमें जागना ही होगा.

 



Dear All,

आज हमारा सपनो का घर दाँव पर लगा है. लेकिन हमें कोई चिंता नही है. हम चैन की नींद सो रहे हैं. यह सोच कर कि अन्य सभी लोग कोशिश कर ही रहे 
हैं फिर हमें इतनी गर्मी में जाने की क्या ज़रूरत है. आख़िर क्यों? कब हमारी नींद खुलेगी ? हम अपने घर के लिए कब कोशिश करेंगे ? क्या हम इतने 
आलसी हो गये हैं कि यह नौबत आ गयी है जो हम यह सोचने लगे हैं कि हम सोच रहे हैं की कोई हमारे मुह में खाना डाल दे तो हम खा लेंगे नही तो इसी 
तरह सोते रहेंगे ? आख़िर कब तक ऐसा चलेगा? कब तक दूसरे लोग आपका काम करते रहेंगे ? माँ भी बच्चे के रोने पर ही दूध पिलाती हैं. आज हमें 
जागना ही होगा. अपने हक के लिए लड़ना ही पड़ेगा. बल्कि यह कहना सही होगा कि ह्में अपना हक छीनना होगा. उन सभी लोगों से जो हमारा हक दबाए हुए 
हैं. अपने इस घर के लिए हमने अपने खून पसीने की कमाई लगा दी है. हम उसे बेकार नही होने देंगे. 

CROMA आपके साथ है. लेकिन उसके लिए आपको नींद से जागना ही होगा........ 


If you really believe and support CROMA activities please Join For Protest To stop Construction Activity at Dumpyard Site on: 

15th April i.e. Sunday at Main Glass Gate , Crossings Republik at 9.AM.

 
Warm Regards

Akhil P.Chhabra
TEAM-CROMA
Crossings Republik Owners and Members Association












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Akhil P.Chhabra





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Akhil P.Chhabra





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