- If the conditions of the tripartite agreement of business is made viable, of course at a little higher rate, then professionals may come forward. Security agency will be ready to pay for theft only when they are empowered to enforce the security. Residence should also follow the guidelines and monetary penalty should be fixed for the violations which will be deducted/adjusted automatically from the maintenance and information sent to the resident.
- Without disclosing the name of the flat owner in CR, I would like to share that compensation was paid one of the builders in CR through Consumer court for the theft in a flat.
- Considering this every theft should be charged through the consumer court which will make security agencies more responsible.
- We should try to make ideal solution to nearly real one. No government agency is working for the welfare of the people and enforcement of law and order in Ghaziabad is of remote possibility.
Shree Kant P Byahut
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On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 2:47 PM, Vinay Kumar <guptavinay75@gmail.com> wrote:
Agreed with Manmohanji. What suggetsed by Shreekantji may be ideal condition but not the real. We have face the same situation. No agency (security/maitenance) ready to pay for theft.And no good professional or board members will come forward to manage the society.regardsvinayOn 17 March 2015 at 01:57, Manmohan Jha <manmohan.jha@gmail.com> wrote:To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/Xing-Future/CAGi4rbdnmkqQxzL8%3DsLoHhDObvzntf2eyxFLP-11e4nxhXX4ZQ%40mail.gmail.com.Theoretically looks perfect but practically impossible as hardly there will be very few security agencies who will agree with this condition and even if agree than it will be so costly that residents will not agree to pay that much maintenance charges.
Few can agree for any condition to get the job but will run away when liability will be imposed. Than residents will b3 after AAO for recovery and will be a situation where no one will be willing to run AAO.
It's job of Police force and they should be made to insure that these incidents doesn't occur and for this we should impliment all of their suggestions and facilitate to enforce.
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--On 17 Mar 2015 14:00, "shree kant prasad byahut" <skpbyahut@gmail.com> wrote:To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/Xing-Future/CAC-6gHtzquak355D8YKKU4%3DQYPZcSaJrJs3isz%3DoGmqzFwpCWA%40mail.gmail.com.My submission:--Above is an ideal situation. At least responsibility of any private service should be fixed.
- Triipartite agreement among Promoter, AAO and Security service.
- Security service has to pay for theft of anything if it is due to lack of them.
- Residence have to follow the rules of the agreement and security service.
- Bidding for the security service must have some security deposit with the promoter/AAO which may be adjusted for any theft.
Shree Kant P ByahutGardenia SquareOn Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 12:20 PM, Siddhartha Tomer <siddhartha.tomer@gmail.com> wrote:Social media is to raise the issue or escalate.Planning needs formal meeting. I second Vinay on this.Plan and actComes with suggestion.Take stock of the situation.I was going thru the posts and few things which come to my mind areHi,We respect the initiative taken by few residents. There may be more than that to be done. Talking to law enforcement is one of the action. Another things on the agenda is how to secure our own house. What all steps have been taken in that regard. Where are we lacking. What all to be done in next steps. What all support we can extend. After all every issue will be directly or indirectly impacting us.One important thing, Can we refrain giving our initiatives/work a political weightage or name. My worry is... it should not result in to political war. Issue should not get lost between that.RegardsSiddharthaTo view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/Xing-Future/CAORb72uVU%2BACrk7vwPowp72bzG%2Bz10%2BNRRokokznSmTf6D8JjQ%40mail.gmail.com.--2015-03-17 11:17 GMT+05:30 Vinay Kumar <guptavinay75@gmail.com>:Dear FriendsI think we are diverting from the main cause for which I invited support from you all.Firstly, We should appreciate the group of people who had taken action against on going incidences of theft. No matter which ideology do they support. If this result in some outcome, we all be happy. Its not a problem of one society,Taking further the good job done by our friends , dont we all feel that office bearer of all RWA should also submit a memorandum to SSP demanding increasing the security of crossing and build more pressure which had already been done . If we are not heard, we all together with the support of residents of all society should organised a mass demonstration.if you agree with this, let us meet on coming saturday or sunday at convenient date and time.regardsVinay Kumar2015-03-16 22:02 GMT-07:00 vikas kamboj <kambojvikas@gmail.com>:we as Mahagun Mascot RWA have offered to facilitate crossing BJP mandal to organize all crossing RWA interaction with SP City periodically ... हमें सुरक्षा चाहिए और जो दे उसका स्वागत …2015-03-17 10:22 GMT+05:30 Manmohan Jha <manmohan.jha@gmail.com>:I Agree that we should avoid propagating any political party/forum same time Instead of this argument we should look forward how it can be taken forward with this start.
Activities which can help us are regular visit of police official at gate of all the society and take feedback from them.
Have a counselling and training session of all the supervisor of different societies by police official.
Cross checking of profile of security persons on sample basis.
Checking by them that proper profile checking has been done or not before appointing persons
There are many things which can be done other than
On 17 Mar 2015 10:15, "vikas kamboj" <kambojvikas@gmail.com> wrote:सभी माननीयों को अच्छे काम की सराहना करनी चाहिए , विशेषतया तब जब वो नहीं कर पा रहे है जिसको करना चाहिए।सुरक्षा एक क्रासिंग के लिए एक मूलभूत मुद्दा है और कोई भी सहायता करे तो उसका स्वागत होना चाहिए।2015-03-16 23:28 GMT+05:30 Sanjay Kr Jha <sanjaykrjha@gmail.com>:Dear Amod Ji,I have shared the information whatever comes to me for the same cause which is actually need of time for crossings Republik. Rest, we all must welcome for any good cause whether it's done my BJP , Congress, SP, AAP , any AAO or CROMA or FEDAAO etc either on individual basis or any group basis. Apart no one have shared the rules n regulation of this group and I have personally shared with all without considering any political mileage.Hope we all are here for the betterment only nothing else.
Regards,Sanjay JhaGaur Global VillageSent from my iPhoneआदरणीय श्री संजय झा जी ,प्रणाम और यथोचित सुभाशीष,महाशय ,आपके इस पत्र को इस फोरम पर इस तरह से प्रस्तुत करने से मैं आहत एवं स्तब्ध हूँ. आप जीन लोगो का नाम लिखे है और खुद भी , बहुत कर्मठ , सामाजिक और सौम्य प्रकृति के लोग है . और भाजपा एक बहुत ही अनुशासित पार्टी है . इस पब्लिक फोरम पर किसी पार्टी विशेष की चर्चा , कार्य की व्याख्या इत्यादि करना उचित और भद्र प्रतीत नहीं होता है . वस्तुतः यह इस फोरम के मर्यादाओ के विपरीत भी है .व्यक्तिगत रूप से मैं भी किसी पार्टी विशेष से जुड़ा हूँ परन्तु मैं अपने किसी भी कार्य को पार्टी से नहीं जोड़ता . कारण अपने घर में राजनीति नहीं करनी है . कल को लोग अपने कार्यो को बसपा , सपा या अन्य पार्टियो से जोड़े तो ये बहुत ही अभद्र होगा . इसको "क्रॉसिंग भाजपा मंडल" पर डाले तो उत्तम होगा .महाशय , हम सब इस टाउनशिप के कर्णधार है . हमें काम भी करना है और यहाँ के माहौल को भी स्वस्थ्य एवं सौहार्दपूर्ण बनाये रखना है . राजनितिक महत्वाकांक्षा अच्छी बात है परन्तु अति महत्वकांक्षी होना अच्छी बात नहीं .उपरोक्त मेरे अपने व्यक्तिगत विचार है . त्रुटि के लिए क्षमा करे .अनेको अनेक धन्यवाद .आमोद गिरिसुपरटेकOn Monday, 16 March 2015 10:25 PM, Sanjay Kr Jha <sanjaykrjha@gmail.com> wrote:
FYI ......क्रौसिंग्स रिपब्लिक में हाल में हुई घटनाओं [ घरों से टाला तोड़कर, गेट (और पार्किंग ) से कार, मोटर बाइक की चोरी ] पर चिंता व्यक्त करते हुए हमारे प्रतिनिधिमंडल ने City SP Ghaziabad श्री अजय पाल जी को एक ज्ञापन दिया गया. उस ज्ञापन में सभी वारदातों का ज़िक्र था. मामले की गंभीरता को देखते हुए City SP ने तुरंत अधिकारी से बात की और भरोसा दिलाया कि जल्द ही केस का निपटारा कर लिया जाएगा. उन्होंने ये भी आश्वासन दिया कि रेसिदेंट्स और पुलिस मिलकर सहयोग की एक कारगर नीति बनाएगी जिससे बेहतर सहयोग भावना से इन घटनाओं पर लगाम लगाया जा सके.City SP से मिलने वाले प्रतिनिधि मंडल का नेतृत्व भाजपा महानगर अध्यक्ष श्री अशोक मोंगा जी ने किया. क्रौसिंग्स रिपब्लिक मंडल से श्री जितेन्द्र सिंह, श्री मनीश पांडेय, श्री सत्यभूषण, श्रीमती मधु श्रीवास्तव, श्री अविरल सक्सेना, श्री कुमार पूषण के साथ कुछ रेसिदेंट्स भी थे.इन घटनाओं पर अंकुश कैसे लगाया जाए - आप अपनी राय हमें ईमेल के ज़रिये दे सकते हैं - bjpcrm@gmail.com . आपसी सहयोग और भागीदारी से क्रौसिंग्स रिपब्लिक को एक बेहतर जगह बनाया जा सकता है.Regards,
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Regards,Sanjay JhaGaur Global VillageSent from my iPhoneGood initiative Vinay ji.Request office bearer / representative of all society to come together for this cause.Talking to senior police officers may be of help.RegardsManmohan 5On 16 Mar 2015 15:16, "Vinay Kumar" <guptavinay75@gmail.com> wrote:----Dear FriendsYou all might have noticed that in recent days the incidence of theft/burglary of bikes/cars and in flat have increased in Crossing Republik and Police is not taking any action on these incidences. Whenever victim approach them to take action on these incidences they simply tried to put the burden on builder or security agencies and do not want to take Later in the name of settlement they made money from these accused and victim too. We also become satisfied on these settlements and do not want to eradicate the root cause.Is it not the responsibility of Police to provide safety and security to public for which constitution had given them rights? This is another aspect that we have our own security system in place. They are taking us lightly as there is no pressure on them. The current Chowki Incharge of Crossing is worst police man ever seen. He isI urge the representatives of all RWA/AOA to meet the SSP/IG on a mutually agreed date and time to apprise them on the current situation in global city and should demand to provide proper security. In case they fail to do so, a protest should be organized against the Police on roundabout. Let us meet on coming Saturday, March 21, 2015 at 11 am to discuss the future course of action.Looking forward for your valued suggestion and cooperation in making Crossing and a safe place. KinRegardsVinay KumarParamount Symphony
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