On 4/13/12, Akhil Pal Chhabra <75chhabra@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Mr.Atul
>
> Read your detailed mail.I would request you in future please write in short
> and be precise in your views as and suggestions.*You have repeatedly said
> only one thing that builders has cheated us so we should ask for
> dharna/pradarshan by the builders and then if builders are agree then we
> should support them. *
>
> Atul, I must tell you builders are fighting for this fight with legal
> documents and now matter is already at Supreme Court. If we request to the
> builders to go for dharna/pradrashan , no one will listen to the builders.
> Builders are also a victim in the hands of Govt like we are in the hands of
> builders in the present case.I can understand that as we are victims at the
> hands of builders as well as authorities for which we have legal way to
> take action against the builders for breach of trust or by any other cause
> which no one has guts uptill now. Mahesh has rightly taken action vis-a-vis
> Mahagun Shopping complex is concern.But everyone is not like Mahesh and
> also Mahesh is facing the consequences of that ,till date his Flat is not
> being handed over for which he has to fight separately another round of
> litigation and also by doing this litigation he has faced some medical
> problem as apparent from his e-mail. Despite being a lawyer I am saying all
> this b'coz I know weakness of legal system in our Country. *However, for
> legal action on Enviornmental Factors, we /the residents has the right to
> raise the voice before National Green Tribunal for which we are waiting as
> the last recourse*.
>
> As suggested by you that we should start fighting with builders, in that
> case it will be very difficult to sustain in future as there is much
> development required in the township for which we need to push builders to
> place things properly as much as possible. Still builders are in better
> position in all respect rather than us. Please understand with builders we
> can fight any time but not at this stage when builders are already fighting
> and went upto SUPREME COURT, the Apex court of the country and the fate of
> that case can take any direction.
>
> As per current scenario, it is the residents who are in strong hands to
> demand from the govt. authorities to take back the decision to shift this
> dumpyard at some other place by Dharna/Pradarshan . In the past builders
> were agreed to spent money to purchase land at some other place to shift
> this menace but all in vain b'coz of nuisance by City Mayor/M.P from BJP
> govt. in Ghaziabad.
>
>
> *We have kept this coming DHARNA /PRADARSHAN on 15th April b'coz of
> current change of U.P. Govt as well as appointment of new VC-GDA Mr.
> Santosh Yadav who has been assigned MISSION GHAZIABAD as priority as air
> in the city. We are trying our luck with a positive hope from new UP Chief
> Minster, Mr. Akhilesh Yadav who is from Environmental Engineering
> background. We are also trying to escalate the issue by sending our
> representation through own sources to his office which is also in pipeline
> and also trying to fix our meeting with him. **We are repeating this
> protest to bring into their knowledge about the issue as well as to stop
> the construction started at the site by showing unity and strength of the
> crowd at Crossings Republik and nearby areas. For this we need support of
> maximum residents as much as possible.** *
>
> Hope I clarified my view point in detail. If still you have some doubt do
> write us.
>
>
> Regards
>
> *Akhil Chhabra*
> Team-CROMA
>
>
>
> 2012/4/12 atul singh <atul_lh@yahoo.co.in>
>
>> **
>>
>>
>> I think Mahesh is right and as discussed last time during our
>> communication on the same platform(mail) I had an opinion which seems
>> nearly similar to Mahesh.
>> And at the same time the *issue of Duping ground is also a valid issue as
>> stated by many people in this group for CR residents* and what ever *Raju
>> is stating that is also perfectly correct we should go for DHARNA/FAST
>> etc.
>> *
>>
>> BUT WHAT IS NOT CORRECT IS DHARNA AND FAST IN FRONT OF DUMPING GROUND IT
>> SHOULD BE IN FRONT OF CROSSINGS BUILDERS *NOT IN FRONT OF DUMPING GROUND*.
>> SINCE THEY PLANNED IT (CR) AND WE PAID MONEY TO THEM (IT INCLUDES BUILDER
>> AS FIRST PARTY AND OBVIOUSLY THE GOVERNMENT AUTHORITY ALSO WHO EARNS FROM
>> TOWNSHIP OR REAL STATE DEVELOPMENT I APPEAL TO BUILDERS IF THEY FEEL SOME
>> GOVERNMENT AUTHORITY DID WRONG WITH THEM THEN PLEASE SEND THAT OPENLY IN
>> THIS MAIL CHAIN) AND THEY MUST TAKE CARE OF THIS SITUATION OR THEY TALK TO
>> ANY OTHER AUTHORITY TO SETTLE THIS ISSUE.WE DID NOT SPEND MONEY TO ENSURE
>> THAT ONCE WE COME TO OUR HOME WE SHOULD GO FOR DHARNA AND FAST IN FRONT OF
>> GOVT AUTHORITY.
>> WE PAID MONEY TO GET HOME NOT TO GET INVOLVED INTO ISSUE OF DHARNA FOR
>> DUMPING GROUND ETC.
>>
>> SEE THE MAIN PROBLEM IS THOSE WHO ARE INVOLVED IN THIS SHOULD SOLVE THIS
>> ISSUE and THEY MUST SOLVE IT.
>> THIS LOOKS LIKE STRANGE TO ME THAT ALL CROSSINGS RESIDENTS SHOULD GO TO
>> DHARNA AND FAST *BUT BUILDERS SHOULD ENJOY THEIR LIFE IN THEIR PLACES
>> SINCE THEY GOT MONEY FROM US*. LETS TALK TO BUILDERS AND FIRST CALL
>> DIRECTORS OF CROSSINGS TO GO FOR DHARNA AND FAST NOT THE RESIDENTS SHOULD
>> GO FOR IT.
>>
>> I KNOW THAT BUILDERS MAY ALSO BE FACING SOME LOSS DUE TO CR(AM I WRONG ??)
>> BUT WHY THEY ARE NOT COMING FOR DHARNA OR FAST (the reason MAY BE THEY
>> HAVE
>> DONE SOMETHING AGAINST THE LAW/APPROVAL, which I CAN SEE IN THE MAIL
>> MENTIONED BY MAHESH AND PROBABLY SAME ISSUES IS THERE IN MANY MORE
>> APARTMENTS e.g. MORE CONSTRUCTIONS THAN PLANNED etc..)
>>
>> SO IN MY OPINION THE FIRST DHARNA/FAST SHOULD BE INFRONT OF BUILDERS AND
>> THEN THEY SHOULD GO FOR DHARNA AND PRADARSHAN IN FRONT OF DG AND IT IS
>> OUR(FLAT OWNERS) MORAL RESPONSIBILITY TO MAKE THEM UNDERSTAND THEY ARE NOT
>> CREATING BETTER SOCIETY BUT COVERTING GOOD HUMAN BEINGS INTO DEVIL BY
>> CHEATING THEM.
>> AND IT IS BUILDER MORAL RESPONSIBILITY TO ENSURE RESIDENT AND CROSSINGS IS
>> SAFE AND A GOOD PLACE TO LIVE WITHOUT ANY DUMPING GROUND ETC.IF BUILDER
>> FEEL BAD ABOUT THIS COMMENT THEN AM SORRY BUT THIS IS THE RATIONAL AND
>> LOGICAL THINKING SAYS.
>>
>>
>> SO IF POSSIBLE LETS GO FIRST FOR DHARNA./FAST INFRONT OF BUILDERS INSTEAD
>> OF DUMPING GROUND AND ONCE THEY AGREE TO GO FOR FAST THEN THE RESIDENT MAY
>> SUPPORT THEM(NOT MANDATORY FOR RESIDENTS).ELSE BY GOING TO DUMPING GROUND
>> WE SHOULD NOT CREATE A SYSTEM WHERE THE PERSON WHO MADE MISTAKE IS LEAVING
>> PEACEFULLY BUT THE PERSON WHO WAS NOT AT ALL INVOLVED INTO MONEY MAKING
>> THOSE WHO ARE COMMON MAN ARE FACING PROBLEMS. SAME THING IS HAPPENING IN
>> NOIDA EXTENSIONS .... MANY PEOPLE PAID MONEY BUT NOT SURE WHEN THEY WILL
>> GET THEIR HOUSE...
>>
>> SO LETS TRY TO MAKE A SYSTEM WHICH ENSURES PERSON DOES NOT MAKE MISTAKE
>> AND IF THEY MAKE MISTAKE THEY SHOULD RECTITY IT NOT WE WHO DID NOT MAKE
>> MISTAKE SHOULD RECTIFY IT.
>>
>>
>> SO MY REQUEST IS TO LETS GO FOR DHARNA / FAST FOR DUMPING GROUND BUT FIRST
>> DO IT IN FRONT OF BUILDERS AND MAKE THEM UNDERSTAND THEY SHOULD NOT TREAT
>> ANY PERSON BADLY THEY WAY THEY ARE TREATING MAHESH IF SOMEONE RAISES THEIR
>> FINGER ON SOMETHING WRONG
>>
>>
>>
>> I AM SORRY IF MY THOUGHT DOES NOT SEEM TO BE IN SYNC WITH YOU. IT IS JUST
>> TO ENSURE THAT THOSE WHO ARE GUILTY SHOULD NOT BE LEFT FREE WITHOUT
>> CORRECTING THEIR MISTAKES. IF WE DO THIS IT WILL GIVE THEM FACILITY TO DO
>> THE SAME THING WITH OTHERS TOO.
>>
>>
>> I was unbiased during aforementioned electronics expression of my
>> thoughts.It was just a rational thought process product which I acquired
>> from our system and education system where I got educated and morality
>> related books like Ramayan, Gita etc.and my society.
>>
>> *Beycom*
>> http://beycom.org
>>
>> 9873876761
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>> *From:* RAJ KUMAR RAJU <rajubanka@gmail.com>
>> *To:* mahagunmascot@yahoogroups.com
>> *Cc:* crossingsrepublikownersandmembersassociation-croma <
>> CrossingsRepublikOwnersAndMembersAssociation-CROMA@yahoogroups.co.in>;
>> crossings <crossings-republik@yahoogroups.com>; "
>> royalcliffrwa@yahoogroups.com" <royalcliffrwa@yahoogroups.com>; "
>> ParamountGroup@yahoogroups.com" <ParamountGroup@yahoogroups.com>; "
>> gardeniasquare@yahoogroups.co.in" <gardeniasquare@yahoogroups.co.in>; "
>> ajnara_genx@yahoogroups.com" <ajnara_genx@yahoogroups.com>; "
>> Amrapali_Empire@yahoogroups.com" <Amrapali_Empire@yahoogroups.com>; RWA
>> Crossings Republic <gh7rwa.crossings@gmail.com>
>> *Sent:* Thursday, 12 April 2012 12:20 AM
>> *Subject:* [CROMA] Re: [mahagunmascot] माँ भी बच्चे के रोने पर ही दूध
>> पिलाती हैं-आज हमें जागना ही होगा.
>>
>>
>> Dear Mahesh,
>>
>> I completely agree with you and can understand your frustration as no one
>> from Mahagun Mascot came with you at the time when you called resident to
>> support you to fight against illegal commercial complex. Once I came to
>> know about you, I saluted you for your brave work and now you are the
>> example as well as inspiration for our society that you won the battle
>> with
>> Mahagun Builder. Now, I was unaware about the story that Mahagun is not
>> handing over your flat to you which is already paid by you. I will talk to
>> you offline on this matter and will try to help you as much as I can do
>> from my side.
>>
>> I purchased my flat in June 2011 and shifted in Nov 2011 so I was unaware
>> about this forum as well as CROMA and/or other yahoo/google groups. So
>> excuse me on this but yes, now I want to make our township as well as our
>> society a better place to live and that's why I am interested in this and
>> calling the entire flat owners to come, unite and show the power. If a
>> single man like you can fight against Mahagun Builder and can win then why
>> not we unite and protest against the DUMPING YARD for our beautiful
>> township.
>>
>> But the question is - what is the alternate option for this DUMPING
>> GROUND? Can we sleep at our home and see the DRAMA? or we can protest it
>> until we can do it? I know the entire resident are not interested and
>> even
>> there are many residents who are not aware about this DUMPING GROUND. May
>> be they don't care about this. But if we have energy and we can protest
>> and
>> can unite then surely we will have some solution. The construction has
>> already been started in DG and we don't want to this construction in front
>> of this beautiful township and we know the result of this DUMPING GROUND
>> as
>> well. I have seen GAZIPUR as an example and don't want the same GAZIPUR in
>> front of my flat/socety/township. We don't want our landmark as DUMPING
>> GROUND. So don't take it in another way, please come and join in this
>> PROTEST/DHARNA/ANSHAN, if you think CROMA is a good place where people
>> from
>> entire society can meet and discuss on this matter openly.
>>
>> Please feel free to call me if you have any concern.
>>
>> *Thanks,*
>> *Raj Kumar Raju*
>>
>> ----------------------------------------------------------
>> On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 7:54 PM, Mahesh Narayanan
>> <mahesh1283@yahoo.com>wrote:
>>
>> **
>>
>> Dear Akhil and Raju,
>>
>> You have conveniently complained in your email that most of the
>> residents/flat-owners in crossings are not participating in the fight
>> whereas you yourselves have been ABSENT when it comes to raising valid
>> issues like the Illegal Mahagun Mascot Shopping Complex issue. The
>> illegal Mahagun Mascot shopping complex is a threat to life safety of as
>> many as 1200 (One thousand two hundred) residents. So for I am the only
>> one who has been fighting alone against the builder and the likes of you
>> have been sitting on the fence and enjoying the show. AAP LOG TAMASHA DEKH
>> RAHE HO. Mahagun builder has victimised me by not handing over my flat,
>> which
>> is fully paid for by me, but no one has come for my help. I have asked for
>> help several times from this forum but not even one person has bothered
>> to help me. So please stop shedding crocodile tears. Also I would like to
>> state my personal opinion on this matter that your fighting the wrong guy.
>> Municipality is clearly not the enemy here and they are legally on the
>> right footing to construct the dumping yard. It is some one else who has
>> fooled us all (guess who?). There is not a iota of chance that supreme
>> court won't throw out your appeal and also impose a heavy cost on you.
>>
>> Just think of this
>> 1. There was a slaughter house (butcherkhana).
>> 2. Some wise guy built a bunch of flat next to the slaughter house and
>> this wise guy also put a veal over the slaughterhouse (BUTCHERKHANA KE
>> UPAR
>> KAPDA DAL KE USSE CHUPA DIYA) and painted over the sign board.
>> 3. Some people bought the flats and started residing in them
>> 4. Then the veil was lifted and the slaughter house came into operation.
>> 5. Now the people who bought the flats are crying foul. They don't want to
>> live next to slaughterhouse because the dead carcasses of slaughtered
>> cattle smell terrible. And the people demanding that the slaughterhouse be
>> shut down.
>>
>> Who's fault is it. Is it the fault of the person who owns the BUTCHERKHANA
>> or is it the fault of the guy who sold you the flats OR is it the fault of
>> the people who bought the flats?
>>
>> Decide yourself. Dumping yard is just an example how fucked up our system
>> is. Just deal with it sir.
>>
>>
>> *From:* Akhil Pal Chhabra <75chhabra@gmail.com>
>> *To:* crossingsrepublikownersandmembersassociation-croma <
>> CrossingsRepublikOwnersAndMembersAssociation-CROMA@yahoogroups.co.in>;
>> crossings <crossings-republik@yahoogroups.com>;
>> royalcliffrwa@yahoogroups.com; Mahagun Mascot <
>> mahagunmascot@yahoogroups.com>; ParamountGroup@yahoogroups.com;
>> gardeniasquare@yahoogroups.co.in; ajnara_genx@yahoogroups.com;
>> Amrapali_Empire@yahoogroups.com; RWA Crossings Republic <
>> gh7rwa.crossings@gmail.com>
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, 11 April 2012 9:30 AM
>> *Subject:* [mahagunmascot] माँ भी बच्चे के रोने पर ही दूध पिलाती हैं-आज
>> हमें जागना ही होगा.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Dear All,
>>
>> आज हमारा सपनो का घर दाँव पर लगा है. लेकिन हमें कोई चिंता नही है. हम चैन की
>> नींद सो रहे हैं. यह सोच कर कि अन्य सभी लोग कोशिश कर ही रहे
>> हैं फिर हमें इतनी गर्मी में जाने की क्या ज़रूरत है. आख़िर क्यों? कब
>> हमारी नींद खुलेगी ? हम अपने घर के लिए कब कोशिश करेंगे ? क्या हम इतने
>> आलसी हो गये हैं कि यह नौबत आ गयी है जो हम यह सोचने लगे हैं कि हम सोच रहे
>> हैं की कोई हमारे मुह में खाना डाल दे तो हम खा लेंगे नही तो इसी
>> तरह सोते रहेंगे ? आख़िर कब तक ऐसा चलेगा? कब तक दूसरे लोग आपका काम करते
>> रहेंगे ? माँ भी बच्चे के रोने पर ही दूध पिलाती हैं. आज हमें
>> जागना ही होगा. अपने हक के लिए लड़ना ही पड़ेगा. बल्कि यह कहना सही होगा कि
>> ह्में अपना हक छीनना होगा. उन सभी लोगों से जो हमारा हक दबाए हुए
>> हैं. अपने इस घर के लिए हमने अपने खून पसीने की कमाई लगा दी है. हम उसे
>> बेकार नही होने देंगे.
>>
>> CROMA आपके साथ है. लेकिन उसके लिए आपको नींद से जागना ही होगा........
>>
>>
>> *If you really believe and support CROMA activities please Join For
>> Protest To stop Construction Activity at Dumpyard Site on: *
>> *
>> *
>> *15th April i.e. Sunday at Main Glass Gate , Crossings Republik at 9.AM.*
>>
>>
>> Warm Regards
>>
>> *Akhil P.Chhabra
>> *
>> *TEAM-CROMA*
>> *Crossings Republik Owners and Members Association*
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> --
> Warm Regards
>
> Akhil P.Chhabra
>
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