Friday, March 8, 2013

Re: [CROMA] Re: {AARWA-57} Re: Crossings Republik Legal Action Against Unconstitutional Body

 



On Fri, Mar 8, 2013 at 9:34 PM, atul singh <atul_lh@yahoo.co.in> wrote:
 

Can anybody inform who was the General Secretary of the Association when the communication of the below mentioned person was not replied well ? 
And his/her current status if he/she is part of the interim organization structure or not ???

BeYcOm


From: atul singh <atul_lh@yahoo.co.in>
To: "CrossingsRepublikOwnersAndMembersAssociation-CROMA@yahoogroups.co.in" <CrossingsRepublikOwnersAndMembersAssociation-CROMA@yahoogroups.co.in>; Gurmukh Salh <gurmukhsalh@gmail.com>
Sent: Tuesday, 5 March 2013 11:31 PM

Subject: Re: [CROMA] Re: {AARWA-57} Re: Crossings Republik Legal Action Against Unconstitutional Body

 
I am not sure about the below mentioned reply.
As far as I remember the mail chain the below mentioned person was asking for INR 1000 repeatedly. Which he deposited in the account of the CROMA.
I am not sure if he get it or not. Please confirm.(Although it is your money I do not have right to discuss about that)

And as far as the communication is concerned it is responsibility of the General Secretary of the organization.
 I think all people should ensure that the existing(the GS at that time) General Secretary should also not get any post in the interim structure but  am not sure who was the General Secretary at that time before the new iterim committee formed.
Can anybody inform who was the General Secretary of the organization when the communication of the below mentioned person was not replied well ? And his current status if he is part of the interim organization structure or not ???
And regarding the person who submitted their money they have all right to know the expenditure and the account statement of CROMA and not just the communication. 
The new interim CROMA should publish their account statement to ensure that the money which was deposited is kept their and protected.

In my opinion, it is just not enough to change the organization structure !  We need to create a better organization probably a new one. But we can use CROMA group id as a communication channel.

The main question is why CROMA requested money to fight Dumping Ground ? Why they did not demand money from CIPL to fight it ? 

  • If CIPL can give 1 crore as per court order in the case ( I am not sure but read it from some paper or mail ) 
  • If CIPL can construct two under pass at Indira puram and NOIDA why they can not sponsor money to fight case against dumping ground to CROMA and respective RWAs?
  • And why they do CSR as per GDA order if they can not make things better for Crossings People connectivity and related stuff ?
  • Even role of GDA need to discussed and checked like they take all money for Development and they should develop the Ghaziabad with that money not the money from private builders with their name mentioned on those underpasses. If GDA can not do this stuff then it should be must be dissolved and let private builders RUN GHAZIABAD.
  • GDA should have asked CIPL to create a big park for CR residents instead of the under passes at different location or GDA should have done that.
  • Still the main issue is GDA and GNN not anyone else in the dumping ground. We should file case against them to check their order and plan.

Atul-

From: Siddhartha Tomer <siddhartha.tomer@gmail.com>
To: Gurmukh Salh <gurmukhsalh@gmail.com>
Cc: crossingsrepublikownersandmembersassociation-croma <CrossingsRepublikOwnersAndMembersAssociation-CROMA@yahoogroups.co.in>
Sent: Tuesday, 5 March 2013 9:42 PM
Subject: Re: [CROMA] Re: {AARWA-57} Re: Crossings Republik Legal Action Against Unconstitutional Body

 
Mr Gurmukh Singh,

Finally I am happy to see a response from you :)

On your first point. Please see the attendance records if maintained by President or by Vice President or by General Secretary. You being president must be aware of that rather then asking individuals now.
Second, Please note when I have resigned from CROMA executive body and you should better recall the reason for it.
Third. The mails I am referring are of past 2-3 months. I have written those mails as a resident.
Fourth, If General Secretary is not responding then hope you as well aware of President's responsibility.
Fifth, Not sure what you meant by " What your General Secretary has done in last one year ". Please be noted that  I am not making any one as President, Vice President or General Secretary. Being a resident, My question was for CROMA governing body. President, Vice President or General Secretary to decide and respond.

Please stop forcing your ineffectiveness on residents. If you still have any questions, Please free feel to discuss rather than writing such mails.

Please confirm. Are you still the President of CROMA. Response to my earlier queries are still awaited.

A resident of Crossing Republik
Siddhartha Tomer
( 8860210000 )




On Tue, Mar 5, 2013 at 9:09 PM, Gurmukh Salh <gurmukhsalh@gmail.com> wrote:
Mr. Siddhartha,

Before asking any querry from me, please tell, how many meetings of Governing Body have you attended in last one year as governing body member?

In an association, General Secretary is responsible for all the correspondance as per bye-laws and constitution. You can go through bye-laws to see roles & responsibilities of Office-Bearers and that has given me the rights. So, be responsible and act accordingly. What your General Secretary has done in last one year, he can not even send the communication to Registrar regarding elections, he could not get his post ratified by GBM. 

For your kind information, I am an elected President of an elected body. 

Regards for which you are not capable.

Sent from my iPad
Gurmukh Singh

On Mar 5, 2013, at 8:35 PM, Siddhartha Tomer <siddhartha.tomer@gmail.com> wrote:

 
Mr Gurmukh Singh,

Before adding salt to anything, you should have clear thoughts. In past few months, I have sent you multiple notes. You haven't replied to any note and now you have time to respond to these subject mails.

Is this ethical??? I want to know who has given you these rights. I want to put on record that being president of any association, you were expected to address all queries. You fail to do so effectively in past one year.

Rightly said by Mr Manmohan and supported by all other residents- "  Position should be given to those who can contribute and not looking for position only for their social status. "

Regards
Siddhartha Tomer
( 8860210000 )


On Sat, Mar 2, 2013 at 9:55 PM, Manish Sharma <intomanish@yahoo.com> wrote:
 
correctly said. my vote is to refrain unless there is a legal document or legal notice issued for such action.
by the way, was the intial email about dissolution sent by officeal croma email address?



Unfortunate response as well as action.

Difficult to understand who is worng n who is right.

This is the situation I was afraid of and sent my response against formation of new body.

I am also not in agreement with the way it has formed but at least so called unconstitutional body is taking effort to do something other than only organising and attending events.

If you are really looking to do something for township take the lead to dissolve the so called constitutional body and call for selection/election of new body who can work for township. Hope of every resident lie on CROMA, only request not make fun of it by fighting for Chair. Position should be given to those who can contribute and not looking for position only for their social status.


Manmohan Jha
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From: Gurmukh Salh <gurmukhsalh@gmail.com>
Date: Sat, 2 Mar 2013 20:37:11 +0530
Subject: Crossings Republik Legal Action Against Unconstitutional Body

 
Dear All,
As you are all aware that some autocratic power-crazy self style leaders have announced dissolution of duly elected executive body of CROMA which is unconstitutional, undemocratic and arbitrary. To add salt to injury they have called a meeting of general body on 03.03.2013 with out giving proper notice as per by laws.
Since the so called new body is itself illegal and unconstitutional; legal action against such illegal activities is under process. As the matter is subjudice, it is therefore requested that we all should refrain from attending the said meeting on 03/03/2013 in the interest of Residents of Crossings Republik and await the judgement.
 
(Gurmukh Singh)
President CROMA

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